WELSH players are expecting Scotland to come at them fast out of the blocks in Saturday's wooden spoon decider at Murrayfield.

Both teams have lost their two games in the Six Nations Championship so far, Wales against Italy and England and Scotland at the hands of Ireland and France.

That puts both teams and rival coaches Ian McGeechan and Steve Hansen under considerable pressure.

Scotland, as the home team, are expected to find the same pride and passion as Wales did against England last time out when the chips were down.

The losers on Saturday could well be staring at a whitewash, especially if it's Wales with Ireland and France still to face.

"Scotland are in the same position as we were two weeks ago, and we have got to be aware of it," said Rhys Williams, normally a full back but playing on the wing for Wales.

"They will come out full of passion like we did against England. We have just got to meet it and get our own game going."

Lock Robert Sidoli (pictured), outstanding against England, echoed those sentiments.

"They will have the same attitude and edge we had against England," he said.

"We're expecting a big clash against the Scottish pack, but we'll be looking to come out on top and give the backs a chance to score a few tries."

Both players stress Wales have got to turn improvement against England into something more tangible against Scotland.

"Winning is a state of mind. All players experience a winning streak, and with us Llanelli and Pontypridd players have done well," said Williams.

"The younger players will be extra keen and we need that against Scotland.

"We had such a great start at Murrayfield two years ago, which is what we've got to do this year. We've got to be ready and firing when we get on the pitch.

"I know people will be expectant, but we've got to be consistent and look to gain a result through it," said Sidoli.

"We feel a lot more confident which is a big plus, we've got to have the right attitude for the game, so performance is even more important.

"They drive the line-outs, they get a good platform at the scrums and they've got a very quick rucking game."

Hansen emphasises the need not just for a performance, but victory as well.

"The players were gutted after the Italy game and disappointed they did not take their opportunities against England, they played well but let the opposition go," he said.